The music deep dive was awesome. Sudana hit on everything I like. I’m a little older so I listened to Joy Division, Cure, Depeche Mode cause all our older siblings were into it. Siouxsie, The Smiths etc. I was into punk so Black Flag and Misfits were super cool. I always loved Slayer and Pantera and such.
I was late to the party with Nu Metal but I love it all. Also, The Strokes are now one of my favorite bands. Like top 5 for sure.
Surprised Alexandru not down with Deftones. They’re 100% SoCal in every way.
This is the first podcast I've seen(?) of yours, and I'm glad I did because the mentions of Pearl Jam, TOOL, Nine Inch Nails, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Nirvana, and the Smashing Pumpkins from people who lived in that era were super surreal to me!
I greatly appreciated the points about sub/countercultures not really existing in a true sense--I tried (and failed) to articulate it in a recent article once, but I'll spare you from the link to it. More importantly, do you think the downfall of Pearl Jam could be attributed to the firing of Dave Abbruzese? :D
Hey, thanks you for listening. Music is such an important part of our generation's culture, I think moreso than it is nowadays. I feel like we really defined ourselves by our music tastes.
It's hard to say what happened to Pearl Jam, I mean they were always sort of the snobby band and once they went from being subcultural to mainstream, really when their friends became Hollywood mainstays, they went balls deep into the preachy pseud professor vibe. Grunge, at least the Vedder version of it always reeked of proto-wokeness.
There's certainly an irony to spurning consumerism and other capitalistic (using that term colloquially) ills, only to wholeheartedly embrace the Hollywood industry; in defense of grunge (and my vicarious nostalgia), I do personally think that whatever political inclinations grunge (and alt-rock) had in that era was more sincere than the political proselytizing that's so prevalent in "mainstream" culture today. How I envy the people who saw Pearl Jam live in their Ten/Vs. era!
Better to define oneself through music tastes than collectivist abstractions such as identity politics (which I think happens all over the aisle, just in different ways), in my opinion--at least one often has an actual personal connection to music. I think it's all become somewhat subdued now due to fragmentation of culture in general, which has substituted actual conviction-laden counter/subcultures for images, compelling people to individuate through ideology... but that's just my two cents!
Fuck this was all so good.
Thank you. It was the copious amount of coffee.
You were on one for sure
Canyou even immagine if I had addarall.
😂
Phisto: I don’t know what phone I have…
Sudana: 4!
This is good on a couple levels
@sudana It’s Aaron Lewis from Staind. Just saw them with Breaking Benjamin.
3 hours? You two must have had fun.
Lost track of time, one of the best episodes so far and I'm happy with almost everything I've done.
We truly did, probably could’ve gone for another hour easy if I had beer on hand
I guess that’s you three. Phisto was there too.
I was mostly along for the ride. Like Brad and Janet in Rocky Horror.
Haha!
I’m sorry Phistty! I didn’t know we were going to talk about Europe for 90 mins
The music deep dive was awesome. Sudana hit on everything I like. I’m a little older so I listened to Joy Division, Cure, Depeche Mode cause all our older siblings were into it. Siouxsie, The Smiths etc. I was into punk so Black Flag and Misfits were super cool. I always loved Slayer and Pantera and such.
I was late to the party with Nu Metal but I love it all. Also, The Strokes are now one of my favorite bands. Like top 5 for sure.
Surprised Alexandru not down with Deftones. They’re 100% SoCal in every way.
Bro… Deftones are from Sacramento, that’s basically another state! Socal ends at the northern Ventura border.
This is the first podcast I've seen(?) of yours, and I'm glad I did because the mentions of Pearl Jam, TOOL, Nine Inch Nails, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Nirvana, and the Smashing Pumpkins from people who lived in that era were super surreal to me!
I greatly appreciated the points about sub/countercultures not really existing in a true sense--I tried (and failed) to articulate it in a recent article once, but I'll spare you from the link to it. More importantly, do you think the downfall of Pearl Jam could be attributed to the firing of Dave Abbruzese? :D
Hey, thanks you for listening. Music is such an important part of our generation's culture, I think moreso than it is nowadays. I feel like we really defined ourselves by our music tastes.
It's hard to say what happened to Pearl Jam, I mean they were always sort of the snobby band and once they went from being subcultural to mainstream, really when their friends became Hollywood mainstays, they went balls deep into the preachy pseud professor vibe. Grunge, at least the Vedder version of it always reeked of proto-wokeness.
Thank you for your reply!
There's certainly an irony to spurning consumerism and other capitalistic (using that term colloquially) ills, only to wholeheartedly embrace the Hollywood industry; in defense of grunge (and my vicarious nostalgia), I do personally think that whatever political inclinations grunge (and alt-rock) had in that era was more sincere than the political proselytizing that's so prevalent in "mainstream" culture today. How I envy the people who saw Pearl Jam live in their Ten/Vs. era!
Better to define oneself through music tastes than collectivist abstractions such as identity politics (which I think happens all over the aisle, just in different ways), in my opinion--at least one often has an actual personal connection to music. I think it's all become somewhat subdued now due to fragmentation of culture in general, which has substituted actual conviction-laden counter/subcultures for images, compelling people to individuate through ideology... but that's just my two cents!
Phisto dropping Excitebike
I have genetically soft hands. I’ve lifted my whole life. Welder. Mechanic. No callouses.
If you started a frat I would join in a heartbeat......
We’ll allow it
Golgol Bordello 👍
Finally had a chance to listen the pod. Great conversation.
Alexandru did NOT just say Sudana “doesn’t really have a New York accent”
I honestly don’t think I do either
Maybe I imagine all New Yorker women sound like Janice from Friends.
Or Susie from Curb
From someone who’s entire family is from NY, Bronx, Brooklyn, Long Island, Upstate... it brings me back when I’ve heard it on these podcasts.
People always think I’m from east coast because my family accent rubbed off on me. Maybe I hear it with you because my brain is attuned to it.
“Ghetto birds”
We had those in Phoenix. Every Friday and Saturday night. All night.
24/7 in the LBC
I bet
Very enjoyed